From Hardline takeover of British mosques, September 7, 2007:
Almost half of Britain's mosques are under the control of a hardline Islamic sect whose leading preacher loathes Western values and has called on Muslims to "shed blood" for Allah, an investigation by The Times has found.
Did this statement come as a surprise to anyone?
Riyadh ul Haq, who supports armed jihad and preaches contempt for Jews, Christians and Hindus, is in line to become the spiritual leader of the Deobandi sect in Britain. The ultra-conservative movement, which gave birth to the Taleban in Afghanistan, now runs more than 600 of Britain’s 1,350 mosques, according to a police report seen by The Times.
That's "according to a police report seen by The Times."
The Times investigation casts serious doubts on government statements that foreign preachers are to blame for spreading the creed of radical Islam in Britain’s mosques and its policy of enouraging the recruitment of more "home-grown" preachers.
What difference does it make where these guys are from?
The politically-correct establishment in the UK, in its effort to crush Islamophobia, has developed a racist policy of blaming foreign preachers for the hatred, as if people born in the UK were incapable of hating and telling others to hate.
The problem is that they have tolerated so many subversive preachers of hatred that, now, like an infestation of cockroaches, the rabid advocates of Holy Terror are reproducing inside the UK.
You don't suppose the United States has a similar problem?
Mr ul Haq, 36, was educated and trained at an Islamic seminary in Britain and is part of a new generation of British imams who share a similar radical agenda. He heaps scorn on any Muslims who say they are "proud to be British" and argues that friendship with a Jew or a Christian makes "a mockery of Allah's religion".
Is anybody in the PC establishment going to stand up and accuse this guy of "anglophobia"?
Is anybody going to prosecute him for hate speech?
My dear British readers (and the UK is second only to the US for my readership), tell us please: What would happen if you were to turn this around, and go into a house of worship, "heap scorn" on those who are "proud to be Muslims" and accuse them of making "a mockery of [...] religion"?
Well, if you were heaping scorn on those who are proud to be rabid Muslim preachers of hatred (notice emphasis on "rabid" and "preachers of hatred"), would you be doing a good deed? If you were to accuse those people of making "a mockery of [...] religion", would you be right? And, what consequences would you suffer for having said so?
Do any of my Swedish readers want to weigh in on the above paragraphs?
Seventeen of Britain's 26 Islamic seminaries are run by Deobandis and they produce 80 per cent of home-trained Muslim clerics. Many had their studies funded by local education authority grants. The sect, which has significant representation on the Muslim Council of Britain, is at its strongest in the towns and cities of the Midlands and northern England.
"Many had their studies funded by local education authority grants."
That's a nice spin on the jizya.
How do you like your dhimmi government? They send British troops to battle the terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq, and they fund Holy Terror with British tax money (I was going to write "British tax dollars" -- I guess I'm getting carried away) at home in the UK.
Question for my American readership: Do you think King George's government is any less dhimmified on this side of the Atlantic?
Figures supplied to The Times by the Lancashire Council of Mosques reveal that 59 of the 75 mosques in five towns – Blackburn, Bolton, Preston, Oldham and Burnley – are Deobandi-run.
It is not suggested that all British Muslims who worship at Deobandi mosques subscribe to the isolationist message preached by Mr ul Haq, and he himself suggests Muslims should only "shed blood" overseas.
Oh, that's a relief: go to Iraq and kill British infidels, don't do it here in the UK. I guess that's how he gets away with it.
Give it time. Another few years, he will be able to be even more blatant (as if he isn't blatant enough now).
Important point: "It is not suggested that all British Muslims who worship at Deobandi mosques subscribe to the isolationist message preached by Mr ul Haq...."
Some of these people get in there and wonder what is going on. Some of them then leave their neighborhood mosques, appalled at the hatred, but don't know where to go. This isn't the Islam they know, but this is what they are finding more and more in their mosques -- and they don't approve!
Do you remember the story of Gina Khan?
But while some Deobandi preachers have a more cohesive approach to interfaith relations, Islamic theologians say that such bridge-building efforts do not represent mainstream Deobandi thinking in Britain.
Even some of the Deobandis may not be bad. Some Wahhabis aren't bad, either. Some Khawarij probably aren't bad, either.
But, the guys calling the shots are a problem.
The Times has gained access to numerous talks and sermons delivered in recent years by Mr ul Haq and other graduates of Britain's most influential Deobandi seminary near Bury, Greater Manchester.
Intended for a Muslim-only audience, they reveal a deep-rooted hatred of Western society, admiration for the Taleban and a passionate zeal for martyrdom "in the way of Allah".
"Intended for a Muslim-only audience, they reveal a deep-rooted hatred of Western society...."
But you kuffar weren't supposed to hear that. Ooops! But, that's okay -- we know you won't cut off our funding. So pay your jizya and be good little PC dhimmis, and we'll remember you when we take over.
The seminary outlaws art, television, music and chess, demands "entire concealment" for women and views football as 'a cancer that has infected our youth'".
Uh-oh. Now they've done it! They're anti-soccer! Next it will be fish & chips, guys.
Mahmood Chandia, a Bury graduate who is now a university lecturer, claims in one sermon that music is a way in which Jews spread "the Satanic web" to corrupt young Muslims.
If Mahmood is entitled to his opinion, why aren't we Islamophobes?
And, if we are Islamophobes, why isn't this guy and anti-Semite?
It's a Satanic web being spun here, all right -- it's called Political Correctness.
"Nearly every university in England has a department which is called the music department, and in others, where the Satanic influence is more, they call it the Royal College of Music," he says.
I'm telling you -- better watch your fish & chips!
Another former Bury student, Bradford-based Sheikh Ahmed Ali, hails the 9/11 attacks on America because they acted as a wake-up call to young Muslims. This, he says, taught them that they will "never be accepted" in Britain and has led them to "return to Islam: sisters are wearing hijab . . . the lion is waking up".
Actually, Sheikh Ahmed Ali, you aren't just an Islaminazi, but more to the point: You are an idiot!
If anything, 9/11 and 7/7 should show you that you are far too accepted in Britain! British money helps pay you to spread your anti-British venom.
This is why you'll lose, Sheikh -- you're an idiot.
Mr ul Haq, the most high-profile of the new generation of Deobandis, runs an Islamic academy in Leicester and is the former imam at the Birmingham Central Mosque. Revered by many young Muslims, he draws on his extensive knowledge of the Koran and the life and sayings of the prophet Muhammed to justify his hostility to the kuffar, or non-Muslims.
One sermon warns believers to protect their faith by distancing themselves from the "evil influence" of their non-Muslim British neighbours.
"We are in a very dangerous position here. We live amongst the kuffar, we work with them, we associate with them, we mix with them and we begin to pick up their habits."
Yes, Mr ul Haq... you are in a very dangerous position here. You are the victim, Mr ul Haq.
In another talk, delivered a few weeks before 9/11, he praises Muslims who have gained martyrdom in battle and laments that today "no one dare utter the J word". "The J word has become taboo . .. The J word is jihad in the way of Allah."
What makes you think you can't say the J word?
Say it! Nobody is going to do anything about it! Say it!
There... don't you feel better?
Maybe you are beginning to pick up our nasty habits:
The Times has made repeated attempts to get Mr ul Haq to comment on the content of his sermons. However, he declined to respond.
I wonder why.
A commentator on religious radicalism in Pakistan, where Deobandis wield significant political influence, told The Times that "blind ignorance" on the part of the Government in Britain had allowed the Deobandis to become the dominant voice of Islam in Britain's mosques.
Sometimes the obvious needs to be stated.
Important point: Deobandis wield significant political influence in Pakistan.
Our other "ally" in the "War on Terror" is run by Wahhabis.
Are you beginning to see why this "War on Terror" won't end in our lifetimes?
Khaled Ahmed said: "The UK has been ruined by the puritanism of the Deobandis. You’ve allowed the takeover of the mosques. You can't run multiculturalism like that, because that’s a way of destroying yourself. In Britain, the Deobandi message has become even more extreme than it is in Pakistan. It’s mind-boggling."
"It’s mind-boggling." Yes, I would concur with that assessment.
In some mosques the sect has wrested control from followers of the more moderate majority, the Barelwi movement.
A spokesman for the Department for Communities said: "We have a detailed strategy to ensure imams properly represent and connect with mainstream moderate opinion and promote shared values like tolerance and respect for the rule of law. We have never said the challenge from extremism is simply restricted to those coming from overseas."
Ah, Mr. Spokesman, please define the phrase "mainstream moderate opinion".
And, when you speak of tolerance, could you please specify: tolerance for what?
And, when you speak of respect for the rule of law... is that the rule of secular British law, or the rule of Islamic sharia law?
And one more question, Mr. Spokesman: for those extremists who are not from overseas, what are you planning to do? Have you considered cutting their funding?
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